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I'm just curious because todays "gaming" machines seem to blow servers out of the water on paper. I know that the x5650 has 6 cores 12 threads and the i7 has 4 cores 8 threads but does it really make that much of a difference in the performance. Would someone using a home built server be disappointed with their machine over a traditional ibm/hp/dell server?

A home built system would be more than enough for what a startup company needs. It is better than most prebuilt servers.

The robustness of server grade hardware is often worth the price difference. As for the additional support of of server grade hardware for a small shop/start up it may not be of the utmost importance however as you grow this will become a pressing issue. One of the most overlooked components of a good server is its storage subsystem(s). I would never use the built in raid for anything other than a raid 1 boot drive. An Ferragamo Belt Price add in raid controller/HBA is a necessity for any server that needs directly attached storage, built in raid cards do not have the performance or reliability necessary for server work.

I know onboard RAID usually isn't the best but most of the mainstream boards now come with an onboard RAID so even that wouldn't be a "selling point" to a server.

I understand the stability part I understand that a server is made to be on 24/7 and take on a load. I'm not talking about an environment with 1000 people I'd say something like 50 people. Most users with regular "gaming" PCs leave their PC on 24/7 anyways so how stable is a server over a workstation anyways? Do you really think a home built one would fail more often than a server?

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A home built one can have a $200 1000W power supply whereas a server is say a 500W $400 power supply. I can only think they work the same way?

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TO mauller07: I think that any build can run as a server i3/i5/i7 but it is more a question of equivalency. Would an i7 (or i3 for that matter) measure up to what a server cpu can do. Would a high end gaming built measure up to what a server build can do. Is the major price difference justifiable on a server. I believe i3/i5 don't have hyper threading whereas an i7 does. I think an x5650 also has it (I was just trying to compare 2 cpus that are more or less the same)

I'm just curious because todays "gaming" machines seem to blow servers out of the water on paper

and it uses SATA2. As far as I know (and I am by no means all knowing in this department) SATA 2 is rather dated. All boards that I have seen today come with SATA 3. As well as USB 2.0 I think every board now comes with at least 2x USB 3 connectors. Cases as well, from what I can tell most cases come with USB 3.0 connectors.

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Lets say the function of this machine would be a domain controller, handle the everyday things that a DC does. AD/DNS/DHCP handling the data.

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The only "selling point" a server has right now (for me) is robustness. Being on 24/7 at 100% load is what they are meant to do, I don't know how well a home built one would handle 100% load all day every day but at the same time I don't think any machine would last very long 24/7 100% load.

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now though)

Yes, A home built system would be more than enough for what a startup company needs. If you outgrow such a solution, when the company is up and running, you buy/build a bigger, leaner, meaner, greener, server rig. Have fun and good luck!

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(I know the server gurus are probably reading this thread in complete disarray Gucci Belt Replica Ebay

I can see it from the point of view of warranty and support, but even at that.

Would it be ignorant of me to say that traditional servers are not as good as they are hyped up to be?

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One of the biggest problems with using consumer grade hardware in a production environment is the lack of support for server grade additions such as raid cards/HBAs and NICs. Often a raid card my fail to work due to the restrictions of the consumer hardware.

As for the hardware you listed for a 50 person domain controller, it's overkill if it will only be used as a domain controller. My core2 duo with 2gb ram could easily handle 50 domain user logons ( assuming it is its sole usage ). If this server would be used as more than just the PDC role then your hardware specs start becoming more reasonable.

power for my video card as I can. Currently, mine is running on a Core i7 950, 12GB of memory, 4X750GB drives in RAID 5, and a Geforce G210. The Core i7 really isn't needed, as a Core 2 Duo would do just fine for most home server tasks, but I'm working on getting MCITP VA certified, so I'm doing a lot of things with Hyper V on it. I keep lots of storage and go as low power for my video card as I can. Currently, mine is running on a Core i7 950, 12GB of memory, 4X750GB drives in RAID 5, and a Geforce G210. The Core i7 really isn't needed, as a Core 2 Duo would do just fine for most home server tasks, but I'm working on getting MCITP VA certified, so I'm doing a lot of things with Hyper V on it. I have 6 virtual machines running on it, with Linux and Windows.

To COLGeek: I agree with that 100%. From what I see though pre built servers say from Dell/HP that use quality components are rather dated. And the ones that do have components such as SATA 3 (I know I keep using that as an example) seem to be 4 5 times the price of what you can build by yourself. I guess the answer to the question I am asking is:

I'm curious, with today's super powerful mainstream pcs. Do you think it's worth it to get something like an ML350 G6 which is pretty dated. (Sata 2 with an x5650 chip and only 1333MHZ) ram (it goes to 144gb) or something like a z68 mobo with an i7 2700k with say 32gb of 1600 or 2100 mhz ram

A home built system would be more than enough for what a startup company needs. It is better than most prebuilt servers.

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I've always used the parts left over from my last upgrade cycle, except for storage and video, for my server. I keep lots of storage and go as low Gucci Belt With Tiger Head

(I know the server gurus are probably reading this thread in complete disarray now though)To COLGeek: I agree with that 100%. From what I see though pre built servers say from Dell/HP that use quality components are rather dated. And the ones that do have components such as SATA 3 (I know I keep using that as an example) seem to be 4 5 times the price of what you can build by yourself. I guess the answer to the question I am asking is:

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